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Post  Thekingjc on Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:08 am

Ohai Eternals <3 (yeah im trying to suck up a bit) God (Ronab) loves a tryer.

/end boot licking!

Btw, won't register the rogue, since I already have an account. So making the post with King.

General information:

Characters name: Xjìzì (I head bashed the keyboard)
Class: Rogue (Combat) teh Imbaest spec.
Race: Human
Level at time of application: 80
Played Time on your character: It's all I play atm (alot) Razz ermm.... 40 hours. (afk for 35 of those tho Very Happy) There really is too much free porn out there ;S
Profesions and level of professions: Herbs (Max) JC (442) - prolly will change herbs for summit. Not sure though.
Do you have a stable internet connection (Yes/No and average MS in raids): Yus; 90MS. Around 25-30 FPS in raids.

What other characters do you have? A Huntard.

Raid times and Experience:

We raid 7 days a week, days and times could possibly change in the future, please delete yes or no below depending on whether you would be able to attend or not. (server times)
Monday 19:30-00:00 - Yes
Tuesday 19:30-00:00 - No
Wednesday 19:30-00:00 - Yes
Thursday 19:30-00:00 - No
Friday 19:30-xx:xx - Yes (as long as i have coffee in stock)
Saturday 19:30-xx:xx - Yes (See above Razz)
Sunday 19:30-23:00 - Yes

Do you have pre-WotLK raiding experience, if so what?

ERMM.. don't bother much with the really old raids, they dont interest me.

TK (cleared) SSC (clear). I cleared BT with Eternals (was on some of the early Illidan kills Very Happy) and wiped in Sunwell with you guys too. I gained all progress in there upto Brutallus...

General questions

Previous guilds and reasons for leaving?

Serious Business- It's a guild I've been TRYING to run... but I just dont have the commitment for it. Erm.. it's basically been built for not so HC raids, and has casual (more relaxed) players (some of which arent grt). I was only ever meant to be GM for a temporary time. Now I've had enough though. WTB less stress. Respect, to all GM's tbh. I'm now looking again for some hardcore fun.

Remember this can checked

What role do you feel you provide in a raid and what areas of strengths do you feel your class and spec has over others?

I provide some what weak DPS compared to a lot of classes at the minute, including Hybrid's; which is of course totally top notch decision making, by Blizz. The rogue class has seen better days.. But I really enjoy playing it. So I wont reroll, or go back to the hunter. Topping DMG is nice *thinks of days as BM hunter* yes, but It's not something im obbsessed with.

Anyway, we SHOULD provide very high DPS basically; being a Primary DPS class.

We provide TOTT for helping with aggro gain - which is pretty nice actually. Though, it's really a talent for the rogue to transfer his threat away from himself, to spam FOK etc. We're a pretty leechy class, providing mostly DPS. What there is of it.

At the minute mutilate is the best DPS spec, but it's a spec that is so not fun to play, with the design of hunger for blood.

Combat doesnt have any real (main) advantage over mutilate, other than slighty better aoe capability. Only really useful on trash though, there are some exceptions though. I guess you could also put two points into throwing specialization, for interupts.

What 1 thing would you change about your class if you could?

The ridiculous hit cap. A rogues main source of dmg is melee, and to be missing a lot of the time isn't good. Most classes can cap (I think) fairly easily, without a significant stat loss.

Also, providing something substantial for the raid would be nice too.

What do you think you can add to Eternals?

Dead melee (poor)dps... always good for a laugh. Check how many times I die in fire etc Very Happy

I top deaths too, regularly. On occasion, I've been known to do 400dps!

I'll add a friendly, laid back *Geordie* which is always full of win!

What do you think Eternals can do for you?

Provide a successful, fairly relaxed raiding environment. Along with some laughs.

Personal infomation;

Name: Jamie Cowan
age: 28
where you live: Newcastle, England
interests/hobbies; Football. WOW.
Job and family that will nag you to stop raiding?

No nagging people that I can't just plain ignore (as I do it all the time anyway) So.. NO. I don't work nights/weekends.

Additional information which you would like to name?

I guess I'll explain my leaving. I was so tired of raiding, and had very little time to do anything, let alone raid. My life was full at the time, and I was just tired of WOW tbh. It wasn't like I emoquit... or changed guilds to another high-end guild. So I dont think it should be a big problem.

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I dont think your template has an armory link, so, I'll provide one.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ghostlands&n=Xj%C3%ACz%C3%AC

TBH, god knows what gear you'll get. I've been switching around a bit lately.

Anyway, thanks for reading.

Jay.

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Desulól on Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:42 am

All I can say is:

WOW 583 Hit Rating, that's WAY over the cap
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Post  Beaker on Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:53 am

Know sod all about Rogues...however, the crucial question is; Have you ever suffered from a FoK related death? Smile
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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Thekingjc on Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:22 am

Desulól wrote:All I can say is:

WOW 583 Hit Rating, that's WAY over the cap

It is?

Special Cap = 99 (5/5) Precision.

Posion Cap = 315 (5/5) Precision.

White attack cap is about = 721 Hit Wink

Beaker wrote:Know sod all about Rogues...however, the crucial question is; Have you ever suffered from a FoK related death? Smile

In BG many times.

If you mean in raids. I'm always eating floor Wink

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Desulól on Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:29 am

You don't need to cap white damage hit
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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Thekingjc on Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:37 am

Desulól wrote:You don't need to cap white damage hit

Thats a matter of opinion.

White DPS is a Rogue's main source of dmg, and tbh in the few days I've been testing, I've seen a DPS increase, even with a big stat loss.

I can if I want have around 3800 AP... close to 38 crit; but it's usless if a lot of it is missing.

I know a most rogues arent going for Hit atm. I'm simply testing some stuff out.

Also if you check my gear, it's not like I've went totally crazy on HIT. I have on what I have available to maximise HR. I can ofc maximise other things should I want to Smile

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Guest on Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:43 am

Hi King

Forget the white cap it's irrelevant m8. We obsessed about it in TBC but now that we suck we don't need it Very Happy. The white is high and we just aren't meant to get to to it. 210-315 is fine with full raid buffs, hit doesn't scale like AGI/AP so you are wasting points, see below and there are better discussions elsewhere regarding Hit not just the EJ forums although I'm interested in your tests.

We currently have 5 rogues, 3 fighting for 1 or 2 raid spots so don't know if we need another rogue. Your gear is good, change your trinks imo but hey. GL m8.

Extra buffs or debuffs  Specials  Poisons  White 
None 99 315 722
Imp FF or Misery 99 237 722
Imp FF or Misery & Heroic Presence (draenei) 66 210 689

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Thekingjc on Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:11 am

Hi, Scuba.

689-722 is perfectly obtainable.

Valorous hands = 38
Valorous legs = 42
Belt of the the tortured = 50
Dawnwalkers = 50
Strong handed ring = 28
Surge needle ring = 32
Grim toll = 83
Webbed death = 21
Sphere of dragons blood = 55
Thrusting bands = 36
Bladescared tunic = 60
Fools trial = 28
Cover of silence = 50
Spinning fate = 32

Total = 615

+ food = 40
+ elixir = 45

Total = 700 hit

And not even the need to gem/enchant anything.

This set-up doesn't necessarily maximise dps though Razz

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Thesage on Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:07 am

Thekingjc wrote:This set-up doesn't necessarily maximise dps though Razz

So why do it?
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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Thekingjc on Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:32 am

Thesage wrote:
Thekingjc wrote:This set-up doesn't necessarily maximise dps though Razz

So why do it?

It was just an example that the HIT can be obtained, or very close with mostly very good gear. I also said necessarily. Perhaps it can be very high DPS. Don't assume it isn't.

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Rigsby on Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:37 pm

Another blast from the past app.

In the past you have shown lack of commitment to the guild. You were the lowest damage on rash all the time saying that you prefered to focus on the boss fights and not the trash. Great guild attitude tbh. When you did finally get to the boss (lets pick kalecgos for this example) you would repeatedly stand in bushes while we constantly moaned at you to move, Grimax also did this alot, maybe hunter mechanic?!

I think you are a nice guy but twice you've been in the guild and twice you've gone off to be with old arm and steel? or arm and hammer people? I can't remeber the name. You aren't a very guild orientated person regardless of your other personality pluses.

If the past is anything to go by then the guild might aswell accept you, they wouldn't notice you on trash and you would probably leave before your trial was up anyway. Good luck with your app but if I was still in charge you certainly wouldn't get an invite back for a 3rd time. I said the same about Slackiepop but no one listened, he emo quit shortly after joining.

But alas I say again, I think you're a nice guy, just you don't have the dedication to push the guild forwards, especially with Ulduar comming out and the sheer commitment involved with a new raid instance.

Rigsby

p.s. I'm sorry for being harsh but it's not really right to keep applying to a guild you keep leaving, regardless of how people may like being ass kissed a little too much.

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Thekingjc on Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:31 pm

Just, no. Lowest on trash all the time... FFS. If you're gonna bag me at least be honest about it. I was bottom once, when I had guests, unexpectedly.

I'm a nice guy... so you'll just go gather lies about me , yeah. Thanks.

I was a high attender for you when I was there, always buffed, and performed constantly, very well IMO. I never caused trouble etc... but I see as in life... all the good goes unoticed, and the bad always brung up.

As for commitment - why do you think I've applied.. now? Cause I want to raid properly again.

To be honest, I knew when I applied this would come, and I also knew it's likely I wont be accepted.

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Thesage on Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:45 pm

Thekingjc wrote:
Thesage wrote:
Thekingjc wrote:This set-up doesn't necessarily maximise dps though Razz

So why do it?

It was just an example that the HIT can be obtained, or very close with mostly very good gear. I also said necessarily. Perhaps it can be very high DPS. Don't assume it isn't.

Unless youre telling me youve run sims and theorycrafts and proven that your current amount of hit is superior to other stats youre loosing (which is contrary to everything about rogues in the history of ever) then i cannot look kindly on how much hit you have acquired yourself.
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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Rigsby on Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:55 pm

I'm the ex GM and raid leader for the guild. Why would I lie? Sure there might have been a few occasions you weren't the lowest, I think the healers got lower sometimes. But the fact is you were lazy on trash and you admitted so stating that you didn't want to waste your enery and focus on. Thats a poor attitude, also you have left the guild 2 times before, and thats really a big thing on my mind.

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Thekingjc on Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:22 pm

Thesage wrote:
Thekingjc wrote:
Thesage wrote:
Thekingjc wrote:This set-up doesn't necessarily maximise dps though Razz

So why do it?

It was just an example that the HIT can be obtained, or very close with mostly very good gear. I also said necessarily. Perhaps it can be very high DPS. Don't assume it isn't.

Unless youre telling me youve run sims and theorycrafts and proven that your current amount of hit is superior to other stats youre loosing (which is contrary to everything about rogues in the history of ever) then i cannot look kindly on how much hit you have acquired yourself.

Well I can't provide you with nothing proven, but also... I never said I would; nor, did I say its superior. At the bottom of my application, I said that the gear linked would be god knows what. That isn't even my gear for raiding.

Heres a link to my proper gear selection - http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ghostlands&n=Xj%C3%ACz%C3%AC (with the exception of one to two changes Smile

Tightbriefs wrote:I'm the ex GM and raid leader for the guild. Why would I lie? Sure there might have been a few occasions you weren't the lowest, I think the healers got lower sometimes. But the fact is you were lazy on trash and you admitted so stating that you didn't want to waste your enery and focus on. Thats a poor attitude, also you have left the guild 2 times before, and thats really a big thing on my mind.

I admitted that one night I had slacked. Yes. Thats all.

Why would you lie? I dunno. Ask yourself that. Cause what you're saying isn't true.

The first time I joined your guild, If I remember rightly, you or Steve actually asked me to join. Someone though (close friend) managed to change my mind , so I quit the same day and went back to my previous guild. Point is, I was confused at that time.

The second time I left, I didnt have the focus to raid. I guild quit and went very casual for a very long time. I don't know what you'd expect me to do?

Also, Ronan actually asked me to consider being Hunter Class Leader, just before i decided to quit - So yeah mate, I failed so hard didnt I. I cant see him asking me to do that job if i was this slacking, hang on, you're making me out to be.

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Ronab on Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:25 pm

If anyone wants to say anything negative about trialists to this degree, it can be done in private message to myself or the other officers. Im not tolerating anymore of this kinda crap behaviour on our public forums.
With regards to the application King, as Scuba pointed out, we already run more rogues than raid spots allocated to them, ive had a good think about it, and theres no way I could fit you back in. Sorry!

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Felhaya on Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:04 pm

White cap... you're living in TBC, where expertise was secondary. It's the other way around now bruv.

Edit: I should read the entire topic and learn to shut the fuck up.
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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Thekingjc on Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:06 pm

Ronab wrote:If anyone wants to say anything negative about trialists to this degree, it can be done in private message to myself or the other officers. Im not tolerating anymore of this kinda crap behaviour on our public forums.
With regards to the application King, as Scuba pointed out, we already run more rogues than raid spots allocated to them, ive had a good think about it, and theres no way I could fit you back in. Sorry!

Ok, I understand.

Thanks for your time, and good luck in Ulduar Razz

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Post  Rigsby on Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:31 am

Sorry king, good luck in finding a guild.

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Re: Xjìzì (Rogue Application) (Declined)

Post  Elix on Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:07 am

I'm trolling this thread.

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